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Tim Strathman (00:00):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to Humble Ground. This is a project I've wanted to do for a long, long time, and I've been talking about it with the guy to my left for a long, long time. And so I told him if I ever did get up o off the ground, he was gonna be the first person I call. And, and today's the day, we want to tell stories of men and women in, in the ag industry that bring food to your table. 'cause I think there's not enough light shining on all of those people. This is kind of a good way. So without further ado, Mr. Andy Evans with Rock and e Cattle Co. Tim,

Andy Evans (00:26):
Great to be here buddy. Yeah, great to, great to finally see this take off and get it up off the ground. This is, I'm, I'm excited not only for you, but for everybody else that gets to be involved in this. Sure.

Tim Strathman (00:37):
No, it's, it's one of those things. We, we get to travel, I would say now on a weekly basis, almost to every state across the country, west coast to East coast, north and south. And we get to see ag everywhere. And so we get all to, to tell all these great stories for our clients, which is awesome. But there's so many more stories to tell and there's so many more people to honestly just meet with, like, like you first generation farms that Yep. Safe to say. Yep. Yep. Whe when did it start? And, and I guess, did you come from a farming background? Where'd, where'd you start at? So,

Andy Evans (01:10):
My family, I came from an agricultural family, not on the farm side. We grew up in the equipment side. I've got four brothers, two sisters, lots of nieces and nephews. All of my brothers, myself my sisters we're all included in mom and dad's implement dealership. It's been in the family business for 60 years. Incredible. I mean, it really is incredible. It's something to be super proud of when you can say that it's been in your family for 60 plus years. Not many people can say that, that it has never switched hands. Dad started it and he is still running it today at the age of 85. He, he just won't give up, Tim. He just won't give up, which is good. It keeps him going every day because if, if he had to stay at home with mom, I don't know if they'd be married anymore. <Laugh>. Sure,

Tim Strathman (01:57):
Sure. No, and I think that's right. I think that's, that, that sums up agriculture, honestly. Yes. there, there are so many businesses or family operations that have been around forever, you know, so 60 years is truly incredible. I hadn't realized it had been that long. I, I grew up not far from Andy, so I, I've drove by the implement dealership my entire life, you know. But again, that's not double my age, but pretty close to double my age. And so that's, that's quite an accomplishment. So, so how'd you get to where you had cattle in that ki? Where'd that kind of take off at? So,

Andy Evans (02:28):
At a young age, I, I mean, I was in third grade, probably second grade, third grade. All my friends were in four H. My, at, my best friend, his dad owned the vet clinic in town. And so I grew up around cattle hogs on Saturdays. They used to buy hogs at the old sale barn in town and so on Saturday mornings I'd go up and I'd push hogs for the order buyer. Me and Brett back to the barn. And it was an every Saturday deal. I made $5 a Saturday and I was, I thought I was just really, you know, getting rich at a young age. Why not? Yeah. and I built my love for livestock. I really did. I, I got involved in four HI was a big advocate for four H. Still am. I, I really love seeing the kids' projects, working with them in the summertime at the fair.

Andy Evans (03:22):
It, it really warms my heart to see the younger generation get involved in agriculture. And that is really probably where I took my liking and my love for livestock. I started out as a bucket calf doing bucket woodworking. As I got a little older, I figured out I did not like the woodworking projects. Being a carpenter was not my cup of tea. Sure. Not, not you know, you either love it or you hate it type deal. A hundred percent. I hated it. Yeah. <Laugh> most definitely. But on the bucket calf side of things, you know, so I was little started out there and then I decided as I, once I got my feet wet, I'm like, I wanna show a steer and a heifer too. Then we went and I took my bucket calf from the previous year. 'cause It was tame. Yeah.

Andy Evans (04:05):
Okay. Already halter broke. Well, then I wanted to show heifer too. So I wanted, I wanted a fancy heifer. Went down to Centre bought a registered Shorthorn heifer. All had lots of genetics behind her. With the intent of keeping her, making a cow out of her. Showed her, got reserve champion with her. Then I had a guy come along that wanted to buy her. Well, then I'm like, Hey, I'm gonna make some money on this. This is definitely, you know, young kid, you're like, whoa, money. Hey, you know, but I had to pay mom and dad back for the heifer. Right. But you got, I got to keep the rest. Mom and dad is always taught all of us boys and girls in my family, that if you want it, you gotta earn it. Sure. It don't come free. Nothing's given to you and hard work will get it, but you've got to earn it. And so I guess that's where I got my grit and my determination that, you know, Hey, if I put, if I want to do this, you gotta chase after it. Definitely. You know, it's kinda like the, the Cody Johnson song. You gotta chase after the dream. 'cause The dream isn't gonna chase you.

Tim Strathman (05:15):
That's, that's a perfect way to

Andy Evans (05:16):
Put it. You know? I mean, and that song and a lot of people

Tim Strathman (05:18):
Are afraid to Yeah. A lot of people are afraid to chase the dream realistically.

Andy Evans (05:22):
Absolutely. so from there on, I got into high school when I hit sixth grade, junior high, bought my first horse as a 2-year-old. My good friend Matt Cook back in the day, went and started my kinda the horse deal. So I bought a 2-year-old. It was a learning project for me. Dad always had horses growing up, but he was into the driving horses, into the Morgans, you know, things like that. I kinda want a, wanted a different route. I wanted more into the cattle side. I wanted a working horse. So I bought this 2-year-old, started working with her, got her broke. Showed her the first year in halter. 'cause She wasn't broke yet. Fairly well my first year I thought. And then the second year went into all the other different classes that you could, and then after that, then the plaques started coming in.

Andy Evans (06:17):
Had a chance we could go to state. I could have went to state every year with her. It was just a, you know, that really made me feel humbled because it, it showed, you know, I spent more time with that horse than I spent with probably anybody. Sure. at that age. And then started doing a little roping off of her doing different things. As I got into high school. I went to work for Nemaha Valley Aerial at Central Kansas my freshman year. Just kind of a yard guy. You know, I was in high school, so I couldn't do a lot. I knew I wanted away from the implement dealership. 'cause Mom and dad more or less said that you need to go to work for somebody else. I couldn't agree more. I think that every kid needs to go work for somebody else for a little while to teach them responsibility 'cause Sure.

Andy Evans (07:07):
Working for your, working for your mom and dad. I mean, come on. There's a lot of flexibility there. There's a lot of flexibility. Yeah. it, it taught me a lot. I mean, it, it teaches you respect, it teaches you to work with others. There's just a lot of things that it teaches you. Fast forward to my senior year, that is where probably my life really took a turn. Went to work for the guy by the name of Travis Stookey, who I thought was just gonna be a summer job before I left for school. Turns out I went to school. Well, I left on Wheat Harvest late that summer when it started around home driving a truck for driving a truck for dad, because it was just on my bucket list. Yeah. Something I wanted to do. Sure. Always had the passion for trucks. Love trucks would've never guessed, obviously.

Andy Evans (08:01):
Yeah. but right or wrong, my brothers hates them because they gotta be in 'em every day. I don't. But it's just one of them things that it was on my bucket list and I wanted to do it. So I went and did that. Then went to school, went to school for two years, and believe it or not, I actually went into electrical technology and design and got a, got a associate's degree in business. You know, at the time I thought, you know, I can farm run cattle Yeah. And do this as my full-time job. So I came back home from school, went and did that for a year and figured out it wasn't for me. It just wasn't what I loved. Sure. You gotta do that though. I mean, you've been there. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think everybody has, at some point in their life, you, you go do something and that's, a lot of these kids go to school, to college. I was lucky enough, I went to Vo-Tech School, so I actually, and I still use it to this day. Yeah. I mean, but I think a lot of kids think they have to go to college and get that four year degree Sure. To make them, to maybe please their parents please themselves. Yeah. And that's great if that's what you truly want to do.

Tim Strathman (09:15):
Definitely.

Andy Evans (09:16):
I knew myself. There was no way I was making it through four years of college.

Tim Strathman (09:22):
I went, I went two years, technically two different schools politely asked me to leave <laugh>. Both of those schools, I occasionally use it. My background's actually in software development, surprisingly enough. I guess I don't come across as the typical developer which is no knock to anybody. But if you've met developers, most of 'em wanna be locked away and don't want to be, you know, in the public eye. And I guess I don't mind talking to people, but I think you're right. I think, you know, back when I went to school and probably when you went to school, it was more this, ah, you need to get away and you need to do this, and you need to do this. And, and now it's becoming a thing. We just did a project for a tech college in Kansas, multiple tech colleges actually. And it was so neat to see the programs they have that where they can do that in high school now. Yep. So, yeah, you can, you can get that degree or that, that certificate or whatever it is you want, and go straight to work and honestly make good money. A lot of 'em are moving back to the farm. I don't blame you. You know, I mean, it's about finding what you love. I think

Andy Evans (10:14):
When, when I graduated high school, well, my junior year, mom and dad, not so much dad, more mom. Mom was the one that was like, you're going to school and it don't matter. You're going. Definitely. And I, so we got into an argument one day and I said, well, none of the rest of my siblings went to school other than one, maybe two. And I said, why can't I just go be like my older two brothers right above me? I said, why're driving a truck? They, they got their own trucks. They're making a good money. I said, that's what I wanna go do. That's my love. I've always had that love. Sure. You know, I am so glad though that I didn't, I mean, I went and did it for a couple years. It was fun. Yeah. You know, got my feet wet. I still love doing it. Yeah. But it's even better when you don't have to do it every day. Especially in today's world, it's Yeah. People. Yeah. But, so after that, I came back home, did electrical for a year, a little over a year. Worked through the major worst ice storm, I think possible that I, I think we've probably ever had that I can remember. Definitely.

Andy Evans (11:22):
In 2008, I believe

Tim Strathman (11:25):
It was, would've been right around there. Yeah. Seven or eight had

Andy Evans (11:27):
It been, I think it was right around seven, eight, somewhere in there. Learned a lot. That was, Ooh,

Tim Strathman (11:31):
You definitely would've learned a lot during that time. Yeah.

Andy Evans (11:33):
But that was shortly after that. That's when I discovered that my heart just wasn't in it.

Tim Strathman (11:40):
So you decided to get outta electrical in the freezing stuff and get into cattle, which is even more out in the, in the,

Andy Evans (11:45):
Well, I, I went to driving a truck full back to driving a truck full time. Oh, cool. Yep. For two years. And I was feeding cattle already. As soon as I came back home from school, I I had a pro place rented that would hold about a hundred, 120 head. Renting a couple pens. Yeah. You know, just, I didn't own any equipment, you know, I owned a house in town, but I enjoyed doing it. After I quit the electrical, Travis Stookey, Travis and Brandy came to me because Travis was a great family friend of my family's. And with my brother Matt and myself, I, I grew up with Travis at our house. So he was, he was more like a big brother, you know. But he came and wanted to offer me a job managing the chemical warehouse he owned at the time, it was a frontier chemical.

Andy Evans (12:41):
And I had worked for him that summer before I left to school, left to go to college. And I loved it. I loved the sales side of it. I loved dealing with the customers. And it was just fun. You know, it was like, you get up every morning, it's like, I'm excited to go to work. Yeah. You know, in the ag industry. So once again, it goes back to my whole life has been in the ag industry, in the livestock side. So I worked for Travis and Brandy for, altogether it was 11 years. Wow. That I was, I was there and in them 11 years where our home feed yard is, that sat on a quarter section. And I was young. I was 20, 23, 24. I couldn't swing buying Sure. 160 acres at

Tim Strathman (13:33):
Even back then. Yeah. I, I would imagine that was still a chunk of money.

Andy Evans (13:36):
It was still chunk

Tim Strathman (13:37):
Of money. Huge chunk of money today. But yes. At least where we're, where we're from, but yes. How much was it back then, you remember?

Andy Evans (13:42):
I think that farm was 6,000, just short of 6,000 an acre.

Tim Strathman (13:47):
And it's what pushing double that now.

Andy Evans (13:50):
Oh, not quite double, but probably 10 a quarter more. Yeah. I mean, between that and nine. Yeah.

Tim Strathman (13:57):
How'd you make it work financially? So

Andy Evans (13:58):
There was a house, a nice house that sat on it. Yeah. Buildings. And it was on a silent auction, I guess you could say. Yeah. You had to mail your bids in, blah, blah, blah. Oh, cool. I talked to, I talked to Travis about it and 'cause he has a farm that butted up to it on the north side or on the south side, excuse me. And I said, Hey, I said, we ought to buy this quarter together and split it. I said, I want the house and the buildings. Right. And you can have the rest of the farm ground. Gimme X amount of acres. Sell me x amount of acres out of it. And so we kinda, at first he's like, nah, this ain't no. Mm-Hmm. So we talked, we, we started, it really became serious a few days later. And he's like, we need to talk about this.

Andy Evans (14:50):
I'm like, okay. So we sat down and we talked about it, and we went for a drive one night after work. And we went up there and looked at it and went through the house, went through the buildings. Then we went back to the drawing board, drawing board, and started putting prices together that putting values on everything. Gotta do that, like valued the house. Every building that was on that property, we put a value on, if you're gonna buy it, you ding. Well better make sure that you put a value on everything. So in the end you can say, all right, well, I didn't overpay for it, but I gave what it was worth. Right. You know? Yeah. So we bought, after we ended up getting the high bid on it, Travis got it bought. We started out with 26 acres is what we started out with. We started out with, I started out with the house and all the buildings. And I'm here to tell you, Tim, you know, my place, there was not a single thing there, but buildings and a house.

Tim Strathman (15:58):
Really

Andy Evans (15:59):
Nothing. We hauled two, three semi the scrap iron outta that place. I mean, there was,

Tim Strathman (16:07):
Was it, was it abandoned when you got it? No.

Andy Evans (16:09):
Oh, okay. Gotcha. There was a family living there. It was their family farm. But,

Tim Strathman (16:14):
But all, all the pins and everything's all You guys did all that? Yes.

Andy Evans (16:17):
Gotcha. Every I

Tim Strathman (16:17):
For some reason thought some of that was, was already existing.

Andy Evans (16:20):
Every stitch of pipe fence, every post, really? Every, oh man, every weld on that farm. We have done every bunk line, every ounce of concrete for the bunk lines, the watering aprons, all the water lines. I mean, we've done it all. We have completely redone everything on that place.

Tim Strathman (16:38):
Oh, it looks incredible. Looks incredible. When, when you started and you got the 26 acres, was there a number in in mind in your head that I'm gonna, I'm gonna have 500 or a thousand or, you know, when back then, do you, do you remember what that was like?

Andy Evans (16:53):
<Laugh>? Oh yeah. Well,

Tim Strathman (16:54):
I guess what your goal was when you bought it. So,

Andy Evans (16:56):
So when we bought the farm, I thought, I'm just gonna feed for myself, you know, be able to run 400 head work a work a full-time job. Right. Run my 400, 450, 500 head and do what everybody does. You know, because well, at the time, let's, let's just admit it was not, agriculture was not that good.

Tim Strathman (17:22):
When, when would that have been? By the time you actually started? When?

Andy Evans (17:25):
When 20. We would've bought it in 2012. Bought that place in 2012. Yeah.

Tim Strathman (17:30):
Not super great. No,

Andy Evans (17:32):
No.

Tim Strathman (17:33):
I wanna, I wanna say, I'm trying to think when I bought into, been a little bit after that, but it wasn't super great then either.

Andy Evans (17:41):
So, bought the place in 2012. Let's, then we fast forward that summer. We spent most all that summer cleaning everything up, trying to get just a couple little pins built so I could add an extra a hundred, 150 cattle to the ones I already had at the other place. We're rolling through summer, everything's going good. Get to late August. I I drove part-time, still on the weekends for hummus trucking hauling wet feed. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, I remember it very clearly. It was Saturday after lunch. I had just unloaded west of Seneca and I was going back over to the plant to get another load. 'cause Usually, you know, weekend you'd do two, three loads a day. Right. And they were all local stuff right here, close to home. And I remember sitting in the seat of that truck and I just, I couldn't get comfortable, like, what is going on? You know, it just, it hit me all of a sudden that day. Wow. And it's like something don't feel right. Right. So I called my wife and I said, Hey, I said, when your brother-in-Law had his cancer, I said what were some of the symptoms? And automatically, you know, we were not married yet at that time. Oh, okay. We, we weren't married yet. Yep. We'd been dating for seven years. So she was six years at that time. And

Tim Strathman (19:00):
She'd put up with you that long at that point. Yeah. She's committed at that

Andy Evans (19:03):
Point. She was, she was uncommitted. I mean, there was nowhere for her to go. She, she had her chance to run just like me. I guess. She couldn't

Tim Strathman (19:10):
Get away from you. I

Andy Evans (19:10):
Understand it. Yeah. So she's like, why? I said, oh, you know, not trying to scare or freak her out, you know, but I said, I, I just can't get comfortable. So later on, get home, she goes, you need to go to the doctor right away on Monday. Okay. End of August, Monday, right before Labor Day. And I go into the doctor on, I think it was Monday or Tuesday, and meet with the doctor. And she's like, we need you to do a sonogram. I'm like, I'm not having a baby. I don't, you know, why, why do I need a sonogram? What do I need

Tim Strathman (19:48):
This for? Yeah.

Andy Evans (19:49):
I go do my sonogram and whatever. And you could just tell that something was not right by the look on the text face. You know, they're not supposed to tell you. They can't tell you nothing. Sure. But you can read a room. Oh yeah. If you can read a room, you could read that face. Like, I mean, just easy peasy. And at that moment, that's when I knew something was wrong. Yeah. Yik. So I left, went to, went to mom and dad's shop that day. 'cause Mom was, mom was worried. She's worried probably more than I was. Right. I mean, well I

Tim Strathman (20:30):
Don't blame

Andy Evans (20:31):
Her. And I, they told us that they had to send that down to Ku Med or wherever. And so later on that afternoon, I remember getting a phone call asking if I could come up to the hospital. I said, yeah, I'll be right there.

Tim Strathman (20:51):
So, you know, that's how you know it isn't good. That's

Andy Evans (20:53):
When you know can't

Tim Strathman (20:54):
Deliver it over the phone.

Andy Evans (20:54):
Yeah. And we go up to the hospital and they're like, go back into the room and they pull out some chairs and you're like, oh God, this really is not good. This is not what I was planning for. And so we sit down and they're like, you have testicular cancer. Okay. Now keep in mind we bought the house in, I bought the farm in February, March,

Tim Strathman (21:22):
What? Six months after that? Six

Andy Evans (21:24):
Months. Holy after this, trying to build what I've, what I had a vision of. And at that time it felt like the legs of your chair were completely kicked out from under. You

Tim Strathman (21:35):
Can't even imagine.

Andy Evans (21:36):
23, 24 years old. Trying to do this on your own. And then you get a diagnosis of that, you know, there's a lot worse diagnosis. But at the time,

Tim Strathman (21:52):
That's, that's pretty high up there though.

Andy Evans (21:54):
I mean, at the time it was one of them that you didn't know what to do. Do you keep going? Do you stop? Do you just throw your hands in the air and go, what do I do now? We went to that Monday or Tuesday after Labor Day. We went to Ku Med, met with my doctor down there. Dr. Meza. Awesome doctor. Oh,

Tim Strathman (22:21):
Good, good.

Andy Evans (22:22):
Love him to death. He is. Ah, but met with him and he goes, we're gonna do surgery next Tuesday, or whatever it was. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. So we are going through the motions in there, talking about this, talking about that. That week goes by and I'm stressed to the gills. You have a mental breakdown 'cause you don't know what to do. Went in, did my first surgery where they took out one testicle, biopsied it, and by the grace of God, I don't know who was my angel that day. But it was stage one B. But it was a very aggressive growing fast cancer. I got lucky somehow way, I don't know, I, I think I know who my angel was, but my guardian angel that day. And thanks to my wife and my brother-in-Law and my family for persuading me to go to the hospital.

Andy Evans (23:22):
'Cause Most generally, you know how guys are. Yeah, definitely. Oh, it'll go away. So went through that surgery. Then there was a month of in between here where they had to wait for everything to come back, see what it was. Went back, I was gonna do chemo. 'cause The big surgery where they cut you open from top to bottom, pull all your organs out to take your lymph nodes outta your spine that lay in between your spine. Gotcha. I really didn't want that to happen. I'd never had surgery before. I was scared of knives. I was scared of needles. Heck, when they were trying to take my blood test at the hospital, I passed out.

Tim Strathman (23:55):
I know a lot of people like that. I am, I don't like needles. Oh. I hate, I can, I can only imagine. Now

Andy Evans (23:59):
I do it like a pro. Oh, I just

Tim Strathman (24:01):
Doesn't bother you. Nothing.

Andy Evans (24:03):
Yeah. Nothing. So decided that we were gonna do the chemo route. Thought that was a better option. Went to Topeka because like, we don't want to drive all the way to Kansas City. So went to Topeka to do chemo. Met with a doctor. Did not like him. Didn't clash. We or didn't get along. Can't win 'em all, man. No. So I walked out of there with my wife still sitting in the chair. Oh geez. In the room with the doctor. 'cause I was like, I, I'm done with this. I got up and walked out.

Tim Strathman (24:32):
Yikes.

Andy Evans (24:33):
Here she comes, running out. Where are you going? I'm going home. I don't know where you're going, but I'm going home.

Tim Strathman (24:39):
This ain't working for me. Yeah.

Andy Evans (24:40):
This ain't working for me. So got in the car, started driving home sent Dr. Meza a message, text message saying, Hey, we need to talk when you are free, please call. He called. Talked to our doctor in town, Dr. Beaker at the time, which was very great. She walked us, helped, helped me through this more than probably anybody. She's great. And so we called her too. We got back together, ended up doing the surgery. That was where it was like couldn't do nothing for three months. I mean, well I did, but wasn't really

Tim Strathman (25:20):
Supposed to.

Andy Evans (25:21):
So went back, I was in the hospital for six days. Came back home. They finally kicked me out, came back home laid around, got babysitted by my brothers. I felt like a 4-year-old. Having my brothers take turns. I'm

Tim Strathman (25:34):
Sure they loved it.

Andy Evans (25:35):
Oh, brother radar, Matt. He he came down and stayed with me. He just lives up the road from me, a half mile to the south. Yep. So he came down and sat with me when he was home. Not in the truck, but he'd come down and check on me so Mel could go to work or mom could go back home,

Tim Strathman (25:51):
Enjoy a family man,

Andy Evans (25:52):
Whatever, you know. My brother Steve, he came up, sat with me for a while. They'd all take turns. It was pretty good. Always made me laugh. Which hurt like a son again. I mean,

Tim Strathman (26:02):
I can only imagine that. Probably didn't feel too good.

Andy Evans (26:04):
Oh, that

Tim Strathman (26:04):
Hurt. I've been around you guys enough to know there's a <laugh>. There's a lot of laughs go around.

Andy Evans (26:08):
But so in that time I realized that I had a lot of great friends, like friends that wanted to see your dream succeed. Yeah. And that's what it's, I mean, you gotta have a good, a good fighting side behind you when the going gets tough. You gotta have them, people that will make you and, you know, just push you to get down and grit down and grab a hold and not give up. Yeah. And I think in agriculture, you have got to have that. I mean, if

Tim Strathman (26:40):
You, I don't know how you get by if you don't. I mean, realistically,

Andy Evans (26:42):
If you don't have them, people in your life to, you know, push you along when the going gets tough, when you want to give up. I mean, giving ups too easy. You can give up any day of the week. But I mean, if, if you truly want to do something, you've gotta get down and you've gotta grab a hold and you've gotta hold on and just go for the ride. So after that surgery, I was still working for Travis and Brandy back to light office duty about two months later. Answering the phone, doing what I could. I couldn't lift anything. I, hell, I could hardly set myself up yet. Right. Got through all that and my family, my friends helped build the pins that I had started. That's awesome. In the meantime. So kind of got that finished, which was a great feeling. So when I finally got back on my feet, about six months later, I called a good friend of mine, Jim Dolling house said, Hey, I'm ready for some cattle.

Tim Strathman (27:41):
He's good. You got a call

Andy Evans (27:42):
I I'll give you. He goes, I'll tell you what. He goes, I got one better. He said, I've got like 60 heads standing at home. That little calves that I need you to start for me. You want me to feed them for you? He's like, yeah. He goes, I always liked how your calves looked when you brought 'em to the sale barn. He goes, I want you to start some for me. He said, let's really, so that's how this, how my feed yard really got started was because of Jimmy D When I lived in town, Jim lived just down the street from my mom and dad. I used to mow his yard all the time. Nice. so I was, I that I got to know Jim growing up, Jim and Kate, they weren't married yet, you know, but I used to mow his yard for a can of skull back in the day. I always, you know, thought

Tim Strathman (28:24):
That's a pretty hot deal back in the

Andy Evans (28:25):
Day. I mean, back in the day I thought fat cutting a fat hog in a butt, you know. And as time went on, I realized the friendship that was built when I was down and out, Jim was always calling, checking on me, you know, right there with Trav. And I worked for Ryan Hummus too. As I, when I worked for Trav, I was split between Travis six months. I was with Travis through the spring season, through March till the end of August. Then I went to work for Ryan Hamus, who owns Hamus Family Farms. So I got in on harvest, anhydrous se anhydrous season, you know, all that. And learned a lot. That's really, I mean, where I got my, between Travis and Ryan, I give them a lot of credit for my business skills. I mean, that I picked up from them.

Tim Strathman (29:11):
Good one, good ones to follow for

Andy Evans (29:13):
Sure. Yes, they were. I I look up to them a lot. Unfortunately, Travis passed away in August 3rd, 2022 from brain cancer. That was hard.

Tim Strathman (29:33):
Oh, I can only Ima I mean, how long had you guys been, how long had you worked for him, I guess at that point? Oh,

Andy Evans (29:40):
At when Trav passed away, I wasn't working for him anymore, but he was my go-to, I mean, if, if I needed a answer on a business question, you know, of, Hey, is this right or wrong? He was my guy, him and Ryan, you know, Ryan's, I still call Ryan a lot with dumb business ideas, questions like, what do you think of this? You know, whatever. But Travis just had that demeanor about him that he would weigh all the options out with you. He was that guy that, you know, like, you got this dude. He had the, he was like your personal support guy.

Tim Strathman (30:26):
And when, when you're in business with yourself, yes. You know, you, you gotta have those. Yes. Yeah. It's not like you got four other partners that you can just bounce ideas with. No,

Andy Evans (30:33):
When we started that feed yard weren't feeding for Jim at 60 Head. You know, it was first 60 head. I thought I was, you know, like had 60 head of his, had a hundred head of mine. You know, I, I thought, hmm, I don't know, let's just give it a whirl. I'll still work a full-time job. Well then I went back to driving a truck locally full time and I had a couple hundred head at home. Well then I started feeding for another guy that got my number from this guy, and then this guy got my number. I have never once advertised my feed yard, never once. No advertising.

Tim Strathman (31:13):
That's impressive to get to the size you,

Andy Evans (31:14):
It has all been word of mouth.

Tim Strathman (31:17):
But that's the industry too, though. I think like ag industry is that way.

Andy Evans (31:21):
Yes. The ag industry, good or bad industry is that way, good or bad? Bad news travels faster than good news. A hundred

Tim Strathman (31:26):
Percent.

Andy Evans (31:27):
You know, we know that. Yeah. I was driving truck locally and I did that for two years and I stashed a lot of money away. Yeah. You know, when I But

Tim Strathman (31:36):
You need money to build a business though.

Andy Evans (31:37):
Well, when I started Tim, I lived in town. I had the house that I lived in and then I bought the house next door, which was a rental house, which is really, I sold my house in town to buy the farm.

Tim Strathman (31:48):
That's a gamble.

Andy Evans (31:48):
Hoping that this would work. I had a really nice motorcycle. That was kind of my stress reliever. I sold that to buy a skid loader. When I started out, I had three pieces of equipment. I had a Kelly Rhine feed wagon that I gave $1,500 for that I bought off of a friend down by Randolph, Kansas. I had a 70 40 Alice with a loader and a gale skid loader. 56, 40 skid loader, three pieces of equipment and a manure spreader I bought on a farm sale. So four, that's all I had. Like, that is all I had. And loaded feed with the skid loader, you know, tractor was on the feed wagon. I did that for three years.

Tim Strathman (32:35):
You gotta make do with what you got. Yeah.

Andy Evans (32:37):
You gotta make, do you know, and I think in the ag industry, I think everybody sees, you know, the big flashy combines, the big flashy tractors out in the field when you're starting out, you can't afford that. You know, them guys that are running that equipment have been farming for decades.

Tim Strathman (32:55):
A lot easier to do that.

Andy Evans (32:56):
A lot easier when you've been in business for decades to be able to afford that than when you're starting out. You know? And I didn't come from a family that had this all established. Right. I mean, don't get me wrong, I, I had a few, you know, with dad owning the implement dealership, it kind of helped things a little bit, you know,

Tim Strathman (33:13):
But it wasn't like you're just gonna go out and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on tractors and, and all of that kind of stuff.

Andy Evans (33:19):
I mean, there was days where I was wondering where the hell my supper was gonna come from when I was starting out.

Tim Strathman (33:25):
What's been the hardest, other than cancer, obviously, what's been the hardest thing for you? Is it when, you know, was that last year, two years ago, where it was a hundred some degrees last year and you were losing

Andy Evans (33:36):
Last year in August? I'll so I guess to fill them in, we are now at a 3000 head capacity in our feed yard. We have two yards,

Tim Strathman (33:47):
You cow calfs.

Andy Evans (33:48):
And we got a hundred head of cow calfs between what me and my wife own. And then I own some with my brother that we share custody of <laugh>

Tim Strathman (33:58):
<Laugh>.

Andy Evans (33:59):
So, you know, when I started that, we started out with 26 acres. I bought more acres of where I live from Travis and Brandy. And then I got lucky enough to have a neighbor come to me and wanna sell me an 80. That fits really good because it's right close to where my brother lives. It's right on the backside of the section from me. Created a little bit more land for us. I got a neighbor, a couple neighbors that raise feed forest that as far as corn silage, we raise our own plus buy some. But we are now at a 2,800 to 3000 between the locations that we have.

Tim Strathman (34:36):
Is that the pinnacle? Where what, what's the next I would five, 10 years look like?

Andy Evans (34:41):
I would love to add another two, two to 2,500 head really in the next five to 10 years. Me and my wife. The, the hard part for this is, is me and my wife don't have kids. So you really gotta think, okay, I've got three great employees. My number one guy that's been with me for seven years, he puts up with a lot some days, you know? But I would bet so I couldn't, I couldn't do it without him. I couldn't do it without my other two. Garrett, Tanner. Caleb, thank you. I I, they, they do so much for us.

Tim Strathman (35:22):
No, I've met 'em, met 'em. I mean, they're great. They're

Andy Evans (35:24):
Great guys. Great people,

Tim Strathman (35:25):
Great

Andy Evans (35:25):
People. I mean, gosh, you, you just, you gotta have a good crew if you don't have a good crew. I mean, yeah, everybody has, you know, a lot of these guys ha everybody has kids, you know, so they make their kids, you know, help on the farm, whatever. I don't have that luxury. I rely on having good employees and you have good employees if you take care of them. I guess that's kinda what Travis and Ryan instilled in me is if you take care of your employees, they'll take care of you. And that was one thing that Travis and Ryan always did. They always made sure you were taken care of at the end of the day, end of the week. You know, you'd put in a lot of hours. I mean, working for, that's,

Tim Strathman (36:12):
That's, that's ag though. Yeah. I

Andy Evans (36:14):
Mean it's ag is about the hours. It's not, you know, everybody says that agriculture is not measured in our, it's measured in acres. The cattle side, I want to say that it's not measured in head, it's measured in hours. Kind of the opposite. Because if you have 500 head, you're still gonna put a lot of time in. If you have a hundred head, you know, you're gonna put your heart and soul into them animals because you either love it or you hate it, you know, type deal. I love it. There's been times that I really hated it. Don't get me wrong. I could name 14 into 15. That sucked losing when the markets crashed too young to know a lot about, I was still learning the puts and the calls and the hedges and still learning that trend, you know? But now I've got that down pretty well enough to, you know, so that I can put protection on. In today's world, you have got to learn how to protect your investment like that. There's just so much volatility in the world that you can lose everything that you've worked so hard for in the blink of an eye. With, with that being said, you know, if somebody tells you you can't do something or thinks that you'll never succeed, if you try hard enough, you will succeed. When I, when I started, Tim, I mean, you've known me a long time.

Andy Evans (37:45):
I I hit it pretty well. I, I had a great bank and it takes a great bank to stand behind you. Oh, you'd

Tim Strathman (37:52):
Have to.

Andy Evans (37:53):
And I thank God. Well,

Tim Strathman (37:54):
And great and great people too. Yes. I mean, especially, you know, friends and family going through what you were going through and on top of the employees you have. But back then, yeah, without people, it probably would've been pretty, pretty hard to get off the ground.

Andy Evans (38:07):
And, and back then, you know, I was, I, so we started out with them 200 head, then pretty soon we were at 500 head, 600 head. And I was still working full-time. Well, what made me quit my full-time job. This is what did it, I was driving down the road one day and had a customer, a one a cus somebody that wanted to be my customer Hmm. That wanted to send cattle, called me and needed to know if I had room. I said, yeah. He goes, well, I'm gonna send, can I send him now? I'm like, well, I'm not gonna be home. I'm gone. You know, I can't be there to get everything done, whatever. I was gone the rest of the day and that night. And I'm like, I, I just can't take him. He goes, no, I understand. He goes, I appreciate your honesty. And I hung up the phone driving down the road. It hit me. I can do so much with this. Why, why am I sitting here in this truck when I can truly be doing what I love of? It was a leap, a leap of faith, a leap of hope. Whatever you wanna say.

Tim Strathman (39:19):
Did you go home and tell your wife that?

Andy Evans (39:21):
I did actually, the next day I was, so I worked all that afternoon and that night, and I got home that next morning out of the truck and went and did chores. And she was already at work, but she, she came home that night and I said, Hey, I've been thinking about something. I said, I wanna quit my job. She looked at me, this deer

Tim Strathman (39:46):
In the headlights. Yeah,

Andy Evans (39:46):
Deer. The headlights looked, you know, she looked at me, turned around and goes, why? She goes, I thought this, I thought you liked doing. I said, I do. But I said, I love what's outside more. I said, we could take this thing and grow this. I said, I know we can. I said, there's gonna be some hard times. There's gonna be a lot of good times, but there's probably gonna be more bad times starting out than good times. You know? And it takes a good spouse to stand by your side. When money gets tight, money gets tight. Things don't always go as planned. Sometimes you gotta change your plans. You don't get to go. You

Tim Strathman (40:25):
Don't get to go. Can't give up.

Andy Evans (40:26):
Yeah. You don't get to go golfing every weekend. You don't get to go to

Tim Strathman (40:29):
So stab at me.

Andy Evans (40:30):
Yeah. A little bit <laugh>. So you don't get to, you know, you don't get to go to the lake. You don't get to go hang out with your buddies at the, at the tavern in town. You don't get to go ride your ATVs, whatever side byside with all your buddies because you made a commitment. You made a commitment to your customers that you would put your heart and soul into giving your best care for their animals.

Tim Strathman (40:55):
Right. And that's why they hired you. Yes. I mean, you don't exactly, you don't wanna go back on your word 'cause No. Especially in ag. Once you do that, once

Andy Evans (41:01):
You do that, it it

Tim Strathman (41:02):
Is, it travels fast. Yes.

Andy Evans (41:03):
It is easier to ruin your name than it is, than is to build it up, than it is to build it up. You know, it's like I told her, I, we had a long conversation. I'm like, and we thought about it really hard for a month, and the marbles were just rolling around in my head. So I started calling people connections that I have, that I made through other people in the, in, in the cattle industry and started picking their brain. I'm like, Hey, if I did this, you know, what do you, you know, what do you think? And they're like, well, I'd send you cattle. I, you know, your honesty, your integrity, you know, you've, you've always done what you've said you were gonna do. And that's another thing is I have learned that honesty, integrity, be honest with people. Do what you say you are going to do.

Tim Strathman (41:55):
Simple concept. It's a but so many people overlook it,

Andy Evans (41:58):
Tim. It is so hard for people to do that in today's world. I

Tim Strathman (42:03):
Mean, it's getting worse and worse too. Yes.

Andy Evans (42:05):
If, if somebody gives you their word, I mean, I'm still the old, I guess. Look you in the eye solid handshake guy.

Tim Strathman (42:13):
I am too. It's burned me a few times and I'm sure you've been burned by it. Yep. But it, I think we, we grew up that way. And so it's really hard to shake the Yes. Ah, people won't screw us over. Yeah. You know, they will.

Andy Evans (42:25):
I mean, I think they can read right through us. Like, oh, this is one of the old fashioned guys. You know,

Tim Strathman (42:30):
Guy, we're gonna pull one over on him. He's

Andy Evans (42:32):
A sucker.

Tim Strathman (42:33):
I got, got a little bit more time. I got, I got two questions that are, that are have been burning in my mind this whole time. Again, appreciate you talking and, and I'm sure we'll talk more. I'm always gonna ask this. Obviously you love what you do. I I think you and I have talked about this before. People don't have an idea of where their food comes from. Like everybody eats, but most people don't have any idea of

Andy Evans (42:54):
Absolutely

Tim Strathman (42:55):
Not. Like how hard it is to get beef to the table or how hard it is to get lettuce to, from southern California to Wisconsin. Like most people don't see that. And, and we're fortunate. Big shout out to Kev Kevs off camera here. Kev gets to travel with me across the country. Just started six months ago, maybe we get to see ag production, livestock, you name it. Row crops, specialty crops.

Andy Evans (43:17):
You see a lot. I kinda wanna jump in your guys' suitcase and just go with you go

Tim Strathman (43:20):
With us anytime. I've, I've told that to numerous people. I said, and of course, you know, the one goes well, I wanna go to potato harvest. I'm like, well, that's the same time as corn harvest. So that's not gonna, you know, once you retire, maybe <laugh>. But what we see is most people have no clue. Like what started a lot of this was two things. One, your video that we'll we'll talk about here in a second, and a video I posted about potato harvest than Idaho last fall. And I had more questions about, well, how do they, how do they do this? And where do they store 'em? And, and do they sell 'em that day? And I mean, there were so many different questions. It's like, man, even people that farm don't know how potatoes get to the table. And potatoes, I would assume have to be a top three, if not number one, consume food in the world.

Andy Evans (44:02):
I think everybody eats potatoes,

Tim Strathman (44:04):
Everybody food fries, McDonald's, french fries are, are the biggest item in the world. And, and they were like, well, can you tell me about this and tell me about this? And I'm like, man, there's so much so that, that's the whole goal of this is to be honestly just meet good people, which we're already doing, but talk about ag not only for people that farm and ranch, but for people that want to know more about that. And so what sparked that conversation? I, I used to have a buddy he went to Las Vegas for a, there's a big grain show out in Las Vegas, and he was sitting at a, a bar after the, the day and you know who I'm talking about?

Andy Evans (44:34):
Nope. But I have a similar situation sitting in Nashville at the

Tim Strathman (44:37):
Bar. Yeah. And there's a lady that came up to him and, and he, he must have had a ag looking logo on his, on his polo. I'm not gonna say what his name is, but, and she's just like, I, I just don't get it. And he's like, you know, it was loud in there, you know, music was playing. He's like, you just don't get what? He goes, I just don't get why farmers farm. He goes, what do you mean? Why don't you just go to the grocery store and get it there? Why, why go into all the work of raising livestock or or growing crops when you could just go get it at the grocery store? And he's like, he came back and he's like, Tim, I've never in my life under, like, she honestly thought that that was like, why would you waste your time doing that? So what's your thought on that? And and it's not a bash on people, honestly. There's a lot of people, there's just

Andy Evans (45:22):
A lot of uneducated people because you go to the cities, there's a lot of them that, you know, they, when they travel, it's the interstate Yeah. Or by plane. Right.

Tim Strathman (45:32):
So they never get, they never get to see rural America. Yeah.

Andy Evans (45:34):
If, if they live in New York. I mean, we're in the Midwest. We, we know what farming is, we know what agriculture is. But the people in the big cities, they think you just go to the store. They don't realize that that hamburger that they have in their hamburger helper came from a feedlot somewhere. Right. You know it started out as a calf from our, you know, like a cow calf operation. It has to go through a growing phase. Then it goes, once it becomes X amount, so old, so big, it goes into what we call a fat yard or a finishing yard to get finished for slaughter. Once it is fed up to X amount of pounds, every calf's different, you know, yearlings, calves, whatever. They're all, it's all different. You know, everyone, it's kinda like a human. There's no one that is identical.

Andy Evans (46:34):
I mean, that's a good way to put it. I mean it's, they all have different finish weights. They all yield different, they all have a different carcass data, whatever. Some go prime, some go CAB, some go choice and some go select. When you take 'em to the packer, that's the USDA, you know, they inspect them. So they make sure that we have the healthiest, safest food chain in America that we can have. Yeah. I mean, if there's so much as one that has, you know, an abscess, you know, and it's that you can't see or something, they'll tank it. It could be cancer, it could be, you know, they don't want to take that risk. So

Tim Strathman (47:18):
When you're talking about the food chain, that's a, you know, one, one can make a huge difference.

Andy Evans (47:22):
Absolutely. Look at the Mad Cow disease. What happened with that? I mean, totally ruined the market for a while, but

Tim Strathman (47:29):
I'm gonna give y your place a, a plug here as you're growing. So Andy doesn't have a website. I've gave him enough crap about that. So I'm not gonna give too

Andy Evans (47:37):
Much crap. I I

Tim Strathman (47:37):
Will, I promise. You know, a couple different ways you can help Andy out. Honestly, if you, if you're looking into somebody that needs to feed Andy also makes bunks does quite a few concrete things there. Andy also has beef. Yes. Some of the greatest beef in the world, in my opinion. I've had it. We raise our own too. But Andy's bailed us out numerous times when, when we couldn't get a spot in the locker or we needed some beef just to get us through. I know a bunch of people that buy from him. I've told him again, he needs to get a website and, and sell off the farm beef. He can ship it all over the place. What's that one thing you said? Like Christmas every year you ship it to like 20 different states or something like that?

Andy Evans (48:10):
Oh, every Christmas I think we ship, I wanna say like 75 coolers.

Tim Strathman (48:17):
Was it a, like a Christmas gift or like a

Andy Evans (48:19):
It was a Christmas gift deal. Oh, gotcha. That a company did. And we had done it every year and it just keeps growing it. And now, I mean, now they call the people that get it.

Tim Strathman (48:30):
Oh, wanting beef, wanting

Andy Evans (48:31):
Beef, you know, wanting steaks

Tim Strathman (48:33):
Off the farm, beef's. It's a whole different thing than what you find in the store. And we're not gonna get into that. But maybe

Andy Evans (48:37):
On the next, maybe on another episode down the, down the way.

Tim Strathman (48:40):
Yeah. But no, check him out. I will put a link to his Facebook page, his email address. You're not gonna find better people than Andy and Melissa again in the crew that they have in the business they've built. If you've been watching this this whole time or listening to this, this whole time, you'll probably realize that Andy is the only person I know personally that's went viral. Andy and I <laugh> Andy. I, last December I think it was last December or January, all my shoots had been canceled again. We travel the country and film for ag clients in a nutshell is what we do. And so I said, Andy, can I come follow, follow along with you for one day? And I think your answer was it's gonna be like negative 27 degree windshield who is

Andy Evans (49:16):
Negative 27, I think that morning. Yeah.

Tim Strathman (49:19):
And I said, that'd be fine, man, I can't wear gloves when you film 'cause there's not very many gloves at work. It

Andy Evans (49:23):
Was

Tim Strathman (49:24):
Miserable. And so I said, I just wanna film and, and show people what it actually takes to honestly keep cattle alive in the wintertime. So we get done, and Andy's got just his, his beard's frozen his icicles hanging off. I said, man, I'm gonna put a camera on you and get your real real thoughts after again, we're, we're freezing. My hands are just sitting here shaking, you know, like the, the video's not very stable, but it is what it is. And, and I said, man, give us your, your thoughts. And if you know Andy and if you've listened to this, you, you know, that he jokes around a lot. And, and he goes, well, don't, we don't work this hard to put ketchup on your stakes or something. And so I was like, man, that's a perfect little piece to put out in the, out into the world. Didn't think nothing of it. I go to some, it was right around my birthday, I feel like, so I don't know if I went out separate for my birthday or something. I anyways come back home and my phone like, you know how the notifications just, just sit there? Yep. Was like, ding,

Andy Evans (50:12):
Ding, ding, ding, ding,

Tim Strathman (50:13):
Man, what, what did I post that would've been that? You know, and like, lightning in a bottle, man, <laugh>, it was, it was just likes and comments and shares and, and whatever. And, and I'm getting people that text, they're like, man, that was hilarious. And, and I'm like, okay. So then I let it go, like, wake up the next morning and it's got like, you know, I posted it later on, probably had a hundred, 200,000 views. And I'm like, that ain't bad. You know? So I text Andy, I'm like, oh man, you're on your, your your way to start

Andy Evans (50:39):
Working on my working on my next, my next gig. Yeah.

Tim Strathman (50:42):
He was like, screw the feed lot. I'm going into acting. And I think it got to a million by the end of that, that first full day. And I had texted him, I'm like, man, what's it like, you know, and <laugh>, but as you read through the comments, I said, man, you gotta check out some of the comments because it was either

Andy Evans (50:58):
They either liked it.

Tim Strathman (50:59):
Yeah. They either loved it and, and thought it was hilarious. Or they commented are like, don't tell me what to do with my beef. You know, this and this and this, and I'm like, or

Andy Evans (51:06):
He ought to be glad they're just buying beef.

Tim Strathman (51:07):
Yeah. And it's like, he's not saying they're not glad they're buying beef, man. He was just making a, just making a joke. He doesn't care what you put on it, you know? It's, it's

Andy Evans (51:15):
The, Hey, just buy the beef and you can put whatever you want on it. Yeah. So, I mean, seriously.

Tim Strathman (51:20):
So what, you were in Manhattan, Kansas at a So

Andy Evans (51:22):
I was, I was in Manhattan, Kansas loading some cattle out at the sale barn one night to bring back home. And I'm putting my, my boots on. I, I'm that guy that I crawl outta my truck and if I'm loading, I put my muck boots on, I put coveralls on. I don't like my truck. And unlike cow crap. Yeah. And I'm sitting there putting my boots on by my toolbox of the truck, and I look over my shoulder and there's like three people in the alleyway standing there staring at me. I'm like, what? What is, why are, what are they looking at? You know? It's like I'm that guy that I'm always looking over my shoulder like, dude, do I got like, did I, did I like drop something on me? What? And pretty soon they're like, Hey, you're that ketchup guy. I'm like, ketchup guy, ketchup guy. I'm like, you gotta remember, this was like in springtime, like April. Yeah, we did that in December. We're in April now. And I'm like, ketchup guy. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I am. I guess. And like, that was funny, man. Like, good to meet you. I'm like, holy crap. So I had to text you, I think, I think I texted you. Said, holy,

Tim Strathman (52:36):
I'm famous.

Andy Evans (52:37):
We really went viral, you know, so Yeah. That

Tim Strathman (52:40):
Was, it's all real when people start to notice you. Yeah.

Andy Evans (52:42):
I mean,

Tim Strathman (52:42):
What we should have done is in, in January, you know? Got you. At some trade show or something. Yeah. Sign autographs. Yeah.

Andy Evans (52:48):
Start sign autographs. Yeah. Most definitely. Most got some shirts. The ketchup

Tim Strathman (52:52):
Guy. Yeah, the ketchup guy with your mug on 'em. That's We should, we still should <laugh>. We still should. I'll be these sell podcasts. We'll do that and we'll put 'em on, on the website and then we can sell 'em and all the proceeds will go to Andy.

Andy Evans (53:01):
Actually we take them proceeds and we donate it back to a charity. Perfect. So I love, I love donating back to charities.

Tim Strathman (53:07):
Well be on the lookout. We're gonna, I'm gonna have Casey design something up and we're gonna <laugh> don't put ketchup on your steak and it's gonna have a picture of you. And then, and then we'll have one with Patrick Mahomes since he does put ketchup on his steak, you know. Yeah. Will a big X over his face or something. That's,

Andy Evans (53:20):
That's probably why I'm not a big football guy. That's

Tim Strathman (53:22):
Probably why. But anyways, I appreciate you coming on. I think we'll meet again. I'm sure we'll be back. Yeah, we'll be back. We've, we'll be back. We've, we've, we shot for 30 minutes and we're double that. I think you can edit it. We can edit it. We're not editing anything, man. You didn't, you didn't cuss, which is surprising. But again, make sure to support his business. Go like him on Facebook. If nothing else again, buy some Rocky cattle. Yeah, Rocky and Cattle Co. There's some really good pictures on there. I know Guy that took 'em. We got a lot of great guests coming up. A lot more good stories. Yeah. Make sure to like, make sure to subscribe. Leave us a review if you liked it. Thank you to Andy. And we'll

Andy Evans (53:54):
See one, one thing I just want to say, if to the people listening, if you have a dream that you really want to go after, go after it. I mean, don't be scared. You live one life. Nobody else is gonna live your life for you. I mean, chances, maybe it's not a full-time gig and that's okay. By all means. I mean, chase it. You've got one life to live and enjoy it because it's here and it's gone in the blink of an eye. So go after it, chase that dream. Do what makes you happy.

Tim Strathman (54:31):
Perfect way to end, man. Thank you so much. Yeah,

Andy Evans (54:33):
Thanks Tim. Appreciate it.